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Which engine will be better in a lightweight kit car..
Gixxer 1000
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Hayabusa
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: GSXcaR Reply with quote

Which? Pros/Cons please.. I'm gonna ruthlessly delete any spam outta this thread since it's mine Wink apologies in advance for any posts that'll get removed - no offence meant..

Which will work better in a lightweight (400/500kg) car...

Will a GSXR1000 save enough weight to make it more viable/better than a Hayabusa?

Other things to consider - a Cat for the SVA Confused which models have em.. is it only the K7? which is out of budget...
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: GSXcaR Reply with quote

Jam wrote:
Which? Pros/Cons please.. I'm gonna ruthlessly delete any spam outta this thread since it's mine Wink apologies in advance for any posts that'll get removed - no offence meant..

Which will work better in a lightweight (400/500kg) car...

Will a GSXR1000 save enough weight to make it more viable/better than a Hayabusa?

Other things to consider - a Cat for the SVA Confused which models have em.. is it only the K7? which is out of budget...


Jam, I am hardly mechanically qualified to answer this post Embarrassed but having driven a Smartcar Roadster, which had a 600cc engine in, I'd prolly opt for the Gixxer one as it is lighter. The Smartcar was great, top speed of only 110mph but boy, the acceleration up to 70 or so was nuts!
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could ask these people Jam ..... http://www.zcars.org.uk/

Given the probably marginal differences in power output in BHP/ton in either engine, I think choice would be down to the relative tuneability of each engine.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zedcars? Thus sprach Dixon of Dock Green!!!
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well we're actually looking at making a caterham (rep) http://www.tigerracing.com/cars/tiger-b6-main.php

or maybe one of these http://www.daxcars.co.uk/rush/reviews/index.htm

rather than getting some beat up old shell Wink

K1/2/3/4 Gixxers are supposedly 160-164bhp.. according to suxukicycles.org the K5 went up to 178bhp! Youch, compared to a Hayabusa 175bhp...

But I'd feel safer putting a turbo (yes it's being discussed) onto a busa engine than a Gixxer which is already fairly tuned...!
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rest mi case
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you looked into an ariel atom...i have no idea about the price or anything i just know they look realy cool and clarkson loved them on top gear...

however i have a mate whos dad races a radical ..dunno if youve herd of them but there sorta kit car style of types but i may be able to ask him about engines if you want??
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the Atom is a bit too expensive... but the whole idea of this being that we want to build something ourselves.. and have it very motorbike oriented..

.. it's going to have the original Suzuki clocks built into the dash, probably a bike exhaust can (custom made pipes obviously! titanium course.. budget dependant..!) and lots of bike decals etc...

rather than the honda civic (albeit supercharged) engine in the atom...

Very Happy website/blog will be going up at some point!
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just had a look on the ariel atom website...they use a 2 ltr honda ivtec engine.. and aparently that does 0-100 in just over 6 seconds!! mental!! i know that wasnt on your list of options but im just letting you know
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a series on sky that a bloke built a busa based race car in his shed, very interesting. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will still be a car I don't know
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about
http://www.caterhamfireblade.com/

Not that I'm biased or anything Smile

An iconic car powered by an iconic sports bike motor. What more could you possibly want.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wildman wrote:
What about
http://www.caterhamfireblade.com/

Not that I'm biased or anything Smile

An iconic car powered by an iconic sports bike motor. What more could you possibly want.

From their website..... Due to some major components used in the Caterham FireBlade becoming difficult to source and changes with the SVA and MOT regulations, the car is no longer in production.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shame, that would've been a contender... but the Tiger is essentially a caterham, they suggest the gsxr1000 engine, but we've asked them wether it's easy to fit a 'busa engine in Wink
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

take into consideration the torque developed by each engine and where in the rev range...

also the state of tune per engine.

obv a 1000cc putting out 170bhp is going to be a bit more fragile than a 1300cc putting out the same.

or you could be a donut and put a Pan V4 lump in one.... Wink
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd still go for a Busa
more tuneable, loads of upgrade kits available ie turbo's etc more reliable engine and even though the BHP figures are similar the Busa produces a shit load more torque then the GSXR1000
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should have a Busa engine on each wheel like one of them Velosolexs


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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoke 2 my mate hes gunna ask his dad and let me know tomorow hopefuly
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jam wrote:
Well we're actually looking at making a caterham (rep) http://www.tigerracing.com/cars/tiger-b6-main.php


Mate of mine has a tiger with 2 blade engines in....

I would go for the Busa engine personally - cubes everytime Cool Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger said they didnt think a busa engine would be very easy...!

So we're taking a trip to Dax cars in harlow on saturday Wink they were much more positive (and cheaper Confused )
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jam may be to l8 but ive sent u a pm bout the radical engine..hope it helps
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