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Biker-Spawn
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| biggus wrote: | | Biker-Spawn wrote: | Three jerkoff twats who made such a fuss about being booked on training, getting VISA invitation letters etc and basically making a general pain in the arse of themselves not showing up for the course.  |
You never know... could be a cheap way to illegally/legally getting into the country.... "I have visa for training course"... arrive Heathrow, then f*ck off into the distance... |
The training course alone costs around 3-5000 USD, paid for by their company (we don't allow the individual to pay). And it's in the Netherlands, so if they have used it as a means of entry...well, fuck 'em. They ain't in England.
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PJ_DJ
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| Biker-Spawn wrote: | | biggus wrote: | | Biker-Spawn wrote: | | Three jerkoff twats who made such a fuss about being booked on training, getting VISA invitation letters etc and basically making a general pain in the arse of themselves not showing up for the course. |
You never know... could be a cheap way to illegally/legally getting into the country.... "I have visa for training course"... arrive Heathrow, then f*ck off into the distance... |
The training course alone costs around 3-5000 USD, paid for by their company (we don't allow the individual to pay). And it's in the Netherlands, so if they have used it as a means of entry...well, fuck 'em. They ain't in England. |
Do funds have to clear before the Visa letter is sent? Just wondering, my girlfriend works in the Home Office and its her job to 'remove' those who over stay or just shouldn't have been here in the first place. This is quite a common scam and is usually well organised with an 'organisation' set up to arrange these things. People are desperate enough to pay the money come into the country and then vanish never to be seen again.
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biggus
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| PJ_DJ wrote: | | Biker-Spawn wrote: | | biggus wrote: | | Biker-Spawn wrote: | | Three jerkoff twats who made such a fuss about being booked on training, getting VISA invitation letters etc and basically making a general pain in the arse of themselves not showing up for the course. |
You never know... could be a cheap way to illegally/legally getting into the country.... "I have visa for training course"... arrive Heathrow, then f*ck off into the distance... |
The training course alone costs around 3-5000 USD, paid for by their company (we don't allow the individual to pay). And it's in the Netherlands, so if they have used it as a means of entry...well, fuck 'em. They ain't in England. |
Do funds have to clear before the Visa letter is sent? Just wondering, my girlfriend works in the Home Office and its her job to 'remove' those who over stay or just shouldn't have been here in the first place. This is quite a common scam and is usually well organised with an 'organisation' set up to arrange these things. People are desperate enough to pay the money come into the country and then vanish never to be seen again. |
f*ck me and I was just being a cynical b*gger 
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Suzibabe
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Dizzy spells, nausea, headache, sore throat - feeling really lousy  but, on the plus side, I don't have a cold.
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JimBo
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| Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Suzibabe wrote: | | Dizzy spells, nausea, headache, sore throat - feeling really lousy but, on the plus side, I don't have a cold. |
Never mind, being a woman you have a host of other ailments to call on....
PS, hope you feel better soon 
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ChoccieMuffin
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| Go on, Suzi, sort him out for that one! (You know it'll make you feel so much better if you do...) |
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Incubus
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women!
can't live with them and sadly can't shoot them!
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| donkey punch sir? |
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Rook
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going back to work.
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biggus
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| Egon wrote: | | going back to work. |
And that's worse than having your wisdom teeth out?
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steve
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| work...what a sh*t day. not enjoying it one ounce |
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Suzibabe
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Letter from my solicitor saying that the third party insurers have offered a 70/30 split on liability.
He recommends I accept it, despite having 3 witnesses saying it's entirely the driver's fault and the police putting the driver on a "driver improvement" course instead of prosecuting, because judges don't like motorcyclists.
He's cited two cases where a motorcyclist was filtering and a driver came out of a side road. One case had a 60/40 result, the other a 80/20 result.
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Biker-Spawn
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| Suzibabe wrote: | Letter from my solicitor saying that the third party insurers have offered a 70/30 split on liability.
He recommends I accept it, despite having 3 witnesses saying it's entirely the driver's fault and the police putting the driver on a "driver improvement" course instead of prosecuting, because judges don't like motorcyclists.
He's cited two cases where a motorcyclist was filtering and a driver came out of a side road. One case had a 60/40 result, the other a 80/20 result. |
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Loco
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| Suzibabe wrote: | Letter from my solicitor saying that the third party insurers have offered a 70/30 split on liability.
He recommends I accept it, despite having 3 witnesses saying it's entirely the driver's fault and the police putting the driver on a "driver improvement" course instead of prosecuting, because judges don't like motorcyclists.
He's cited two cases where a motorcyclist was filtering and a driver came out of a side road. One case had a 60/40 result, the other a 80/20 result. |
Bullshit!!
You have witnesses ! get in touch with white dalton (specialists for MC) and go to court with the witness statments guilt cannot be denied!!
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Biker-Spawn
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| Loco wrote: | | Suzibabe wrote: | Letter from my solicitor saying that the third party insurers have offered a 70/30 split on liability.
He recommends I accept it, despite having 3 witnesses saying it's entirely the driver's fault and the police putting the driver on a "driver improvement" course instead of prosecuting, because judges don't like motorcyclists.
He's cited two cases where a motorcyclist was filtering and a driver came out of a side road. One case had a 60/40 result, the other a 80/20 result. |
Bullshit!!
You have witnesses ! get in touch with white dalton (specialists for MC) and go to court with the witness statments guilt cannot be denied!! |
There's also a group of lawyers called Rider Support Services, they're meant to be pretty good. They were reccomended by a courier I got chatting to last week when I told him about Tania's off...They're lawyers for bikers and they all ride motorbikes. Not sure what contact details etc are, but they're meant to be located in Putney.
http://www.ridersupport.com/content/default.asp?ParamReload=true&PageId=103
Tel: 020 8246 4900
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Jay1
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| Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Loco wrote: | | Suzibabe wrote: | Letter from my solicitor saying that the third party insurers have offered a 70/30 split on liability.
He recommends I accept it, despite having 3 witnesses saying it's entirely the driver's fault and the police putting the driver on a "driver improvement" course instead of prosecuting, because judges don't like motorcyclists.
He's cited two cases where a motorcyclist was filtering and a driver came out of a side road. One case had a 60/40 result, the other a 80/20 result. |
Bullshit!!
You have witnesses ! get in touch with white dalton (specialists for MC) and go to court with the witness statments guilt cannot be denied!! |
Witness evidence isn't necesarily the be all and end all if there is case law precedent. If the circumstances reported by the parties and the witnesses fit the precedent then generally the Court will go with the precedent. County Court Judges love easy decisions that are made for them
If the circs on this one were that you are filtering and a car has come out of a junction to your left, then in all honesty, unless the witness evidence is that he just shot out without looking, and that you were only going at walking pace, your solicitor may well be right. I hate these cases, but unfortunately filtering at junctions is very much a risky manouvre in the eyes of the Courts, and the bike generally comes out with the shit end of the decision.
Have you seen the witness statements? What do they actually say? |
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Jay1
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| Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Biker-Spawn wrote: | | Loco wrote: | | Suzibabe wrote: | Letter from my solicitor saying that the third party insurers have offered a 70/30 split on liability.
He recommends I accept it, despite having 3 witnesses saying it's entirely the driver's fault and the police putting the driver on a "driver improvement" course instead of prosecuting, because judges don't like motorcyclists.
He's cited two cases where a motorcyclist was filtering and a driver came out of a side road. One case had a 60/40 result, the other a 80/20 result. |
Bullshit!!
You have witnesses ! get in touch with white dalton (specialists for MC) and go to court with the witness statments guilt cannot be denied!! |
There's also a group of lawyers called Rider Support Services, they're meant to be pretty good. They were reccomended by a courier I got chatting to last week when I told him about Tania's off...They're lawyers for bikers and they all ride motorbikes. Not sure what contact details etc are, but they're meant to be located in Putney.
http://www.ridersupport.com/content/default.asp?ParamReload=true&PageId=103
Tel: 020 8246 4900 |
LOL no they aint, either all lawyers or all bike riders. They just specialise in Bike claims. In fairness though, they are not too bad and they do tend to fight for the bike rider a bit harder than many of the large national law firms do.
In my experience you are better off going with a local solicitor who deals with injury claims than one of the big insurer appointed firms, who often employ cheap staff who are under qualified and really couldn't give a rats ass about client care and devotion to the cases they are dealing with. At least with a local you can go in and have a face to face chat to discuss issues, rather than sit on a phone with some halfwit the other side of the country, which is what you often get with the lower value claims dealt with by big firms. |
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Suzibabe
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[quote="Jay1"][quote="Loco"] | Suzibabe wrote: | If the circs on this one were that you are filtering and a car has come out of a junction to your left, then in all honesty, unless the witness evidence is that he just shot out without looking, and that you were only going at walking pace, your solicitor may well be right. I hate these cases, but unfortunately filtering at junctions is very much a risky manouvre in the eyes of the Courts, and the bike generally comes out with the shit end of the decision.
Have you seen the witness statements? What do they actually say? |
Circs were: I was on the main road filtering past traffic very slowly. Car I was going past was indicating to turn left into the side road. My way was clear. There was a keep clear box which has to be clear for stationery traffic (which it wasn't). I saw a car edge out from the side road but then stop, so I continued. I was at walking pace, if not slower (in fact, I was told that the witnesses had stated that I was stationary). The driver suddenly shot out and knocked me off - I was watching and could see her looking left while she was turning right!
Anyway, it was more the comment about the judges than the whole situation that p!$$ed me off. The other thing is just really annoying. The solicitors are up in Liverpool so there's no way I can take it to court.
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Jay1
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Ok, first off I would ask to see the witness statments. If they try and tell you they can't for data prtection just tell them to blank out the witness names and addresses, so then you can see exactly what the witnesses are saying.
As for their comment on the Judges, ignore it, it's not that judges don't like bikers it's that the case law precedents tend to be agains bikers as they expect us to have an extremely high duty of care to others and to ourselves.
As for the solicitor being in liverpool, this makes no difference. The case would likely be heard in the Defendants home Court, so whereever the other party lives is where it would go to trial, unless the other party didn't apply to have it transfered in which case you could as it to be transfered to your local court. Basically when the solicitors file an allocation questionairred they have to tell the court where they want the trial, you would obviously tell them you want it local to you. But if the Defendant gave a preferred Court, they usually get priority.
If you want any help or pointers at all just shout, either on here or PM. I work for the enemy at the moment (the insurers who argue these sorts of thngs) but spent the last 8 years before working for Claimant's solicitors. So I have a reasonable view from both sides of the fence. |
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Suzibabe
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| Jay1 wrote: | | As for the solicitor being in liverpool, this makes no difference. The case would likely be heard in the Defendants home Court, so whereever the other party lives is where it would go to trial, unless the other party didn't apply to have it transfered in which case you could as it to be transfered to your local court. Basically when the solicitors file an allocation questionairred they have to tell the court where they want the trial, you would obviously tell them you want it local to you. But if the Defendant gave a preferred Court, they usually get priority. |
Defendant lives in the same town as me so that would be alright.
| Jay1 wrote: | | If you want any help or pointers at all just shout, either on here or PM. I work for the enemy at the moment (the insurers who argue these sorts of thngs) but spent the last 8 years before working for Claimant's solicitors. So I have a reasonable view from both sides of the fence. |
 Thanks for that. I'll ask for the statements and let you know. I'll PM you to save everyone else having to read my posts 
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BarryH
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| Life is shit.......... |
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Biker-Spawn
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| BarryH wrote: | | Life is shit.......... |
...and then you have one.
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doh1990
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perfect day but with no bike
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biggus
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Both mirror covers popping off the pan thanks to a monumental pothole on the a25 if i'd not had the top box on my pillion would have been off the back... Phone call to highways agency in the morning me thinks. I pay over 400 a year 'road tax' for shit roads 
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Tango
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| biggus wrote: | | Both mirror covers popping off the pan thanks to a monumental pothole on the a25 if i'd not had the top box on my pillion would have been off the back... Phone call to highways agency in the morning me thinks. I pay over 400 a year 'road tax' for shit roads |
Get an XT ..... pot holes pah .... 
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