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What do u look for in a track day photo? |
My knee down |
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Me duffing someone up |
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A tight crop of me on the bike with some lean |
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Not so tight a shot, with some scenery to give context |
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Other, please specify on the thread! |
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photo chick "not so little Emma"
Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 2235
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:10 am Post subject: Track day photos.... |
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Hello all
As you may have noticed I've been trying my hand at shooting track days recently. It's something I really fancy pursuing, tho at the mo I don't have entirely appropriate equipment cause it's way out of my usual field. But I'm givin it a whirl lol.
Anyhoo, those of you who do track days.... I wanna know, what do you look for in a photo you'd want to buy?
Because everyone I've spoken to so far seems to want something different!! Some want their knee down, some want a tight shot of them on the bike, some people want a bit of scenery/cones etc to give some context on where they are. Or them duffing someone up etc.
So whaddya reckon?? Opinions please, cheers
Here's a few from Monday:
These are from Brands & Bedford, some are further away, giving more of an impression of the surroundings, not just the bike. Is that something you'd like?
All opinions appreciated, I can take criticism, I wanna learn
Ta x _________________ Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul!
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The Teacher Cabbage club member #2
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:09 am Post subject: |
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The first bit of criticism is your northen 2nd is your always cold Pingu Good pics by the way _________________ You make something idiotproof, they'll make a better idiot
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wivvy's dad Cabbage club member #3
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:16 am Post subject: |
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Very good pics Emma.
I don't do track days now, but if I still did, I'd be very happy with the first picture at the top of the page. I think head-on pics work best.
Just my opinion FWIW
PS I'd want ugly buggers Photoshopped out tho'.................... they know who they are..... |
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photo chick "not so little Emma"
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:19 am Post subject: |
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The Teacher wrote: | The first bit of criticism is your northen 2nd is your always cold Pingu Good pics by the way |
All your favourite bands are Northern! You know you have a secret Northern fettish, now STFU Palmer _________________ Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul!
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photo chick "not so little Emma"
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:23 am Post subject: |
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wivvy's dad wrote: | Very good pics Emma.
I don't do track days now, but if I still did, I'd be very happy with the first picture at the top of the page. I think head-on pics work best.
Just my opinion FWIW
PS I'd want ugly buggers Photoshopped out tho'.................... they know who they are..... |
Thank you for your USEFUL post
....unlike that Palmer git _________________ Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul!
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wivvy's dad Cabbage club member #3
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:27 am Post subject: |
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photo chick wrote: | wivvy's dad wrote: | Very good pics Emma.
I don't do track days now, but if I still did, I'd be very happy with the first picture at the top of the page. I think head-on pics work best.
Just my opinion FWIW
PS I'd want ugly buggers Photoshopped out tho'.................... they know who they are..... |
Thank you for your USEFUL post
....unlike that Palmer git |
He's the one I'd want 'Shopping out.............................
And I do recall he seemed to enjoy himself Oop North...................... |
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southernspeed MotoGP Racer
Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 4132 Location: Froststead.
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Emma these are two of my favourite shots I've had done over the years. Like several of the (excellent) shots you've posted above, they give a sense of speed and when I look at them I can still 'feel' what I was doing at the time. Some of the official photos from Monday's Brands day could've been shot on a local roundabout
Personally I think the ones with a lot of background info detract from the subject but it needs to be balanced by not going in too tight and losing any relationship with what's going on.
They can be educational too, like we now know Gary needs to get his feet up on the pegs and you know what he needs for Xmas .... new boots
Great photos. What camera/lens did you use? _________________ It's not the speed of life that bothers me, it's the sudden stop at the end!
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wivvy's dad Cabbage club member #3
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:48 am Post subject: |
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southernspeed wrote: | ...........like we now know Gary needs to get his feet up on the pegs and you know what he needs for Xmas .... new boots |
Hey....go easy on the old geezer
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V MotoGP Racer
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:06 am Post subject: |
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think this is great shot, also like bit closer head on (ish) corner ones showing lean and rumble strip _________________
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gsxrboy 24/7 Despatch Rider
Joined: 22 Aug 2009 Posts: 154 Location: crawley
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:59 am Post subject: |
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people want pics that flatter them and their riding and to prove they can get knee down or wheelie etc, panning shots make them look fast _________________ 97 750 srad
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Phoenix 'Phenis the tree hugger'
Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 2057 Location: op die doos
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Miss V wrote: | think this is great shot, |
it's funny you should say that V, as i was about to say that that one is specifically my least favourite.
i know i've never done a td, but i'm no less observant (or opinionated )for it.
reason it's my least favourite is:
1) without much motion blur there isn't a great impression of speed
2) while in reality this bike may be a mile ahead of anyone else ...
the impression that i was given by point 1 above make me feel that this has been left far behind.
or is on the track alone. particularly without any bikes visible at any distance behind.
there isn't a feeling of urgency ...
PC you've asked for a poll where people can put one opinion, I think
"All Of The Above" would fit most people's criteria. All of the pics have a lot to offer, from knee downs, to
"lookie I'm in the lead" to V's concentration (I really like that one) to "see how fast I am ma" and even showing the finger is a brilliant pic.
why not make numbered Thumbnail copies of all of the above pics, and have people put them in their order of preference. perhaps with a short description by any that they Particularly like or dislike _________________ [img]http://www.boxhill.co.uk/forum/phpBB2/album_pic.php?pic_id=9446[/img]
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Baloo Guest
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Great pics PC!
I would agree with Gixxer24/7, any flattering shots are appreciated. I also like the ones of people being duffed up or duffing someone up, as you have above.
One style I always enjoy to have one of in the collection is as below (I think these work better though when can see the rider's face):
....and anything like this. This sort of photo will need knowledge of the track to know where this is likely to happen (although I cannot remember from where at Brands I took this )
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biggus illitterātus
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 31748 Location: Hotel California
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Front on shots are easier to get, especially in succession on a "slow" corner you can rattle off each bike that comes round and get good results, shots that involve panning generally at least halve the number you can take you will invariably miss two more bikes after the one you have shot.
Everyone who wants track day pictures wants flattering pictures - i.e. big lean, knee down, overtakes, etc.
These are a few of me, which I like for different reasons, BUT they are far from technical perfection as photographs...
Might be worth a look at Chuffsters site - www.rssouthern.co.uk he takes lots of racing pictures and has had some published in MCN and on the web _________________
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Baloo Guest
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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I have posted this before, but I think this guy has it pretty much sorted in terms of what makes a good biking shot.
http://jasonscottphotography.com/ |
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photo chick "not so little Emma"
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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southernspeed wrote: | They can be educational too, like we now know Gary needs to get his feet up on the pegs and you know what he needs for Xmas .... new boots |
yeah his toes were actually coming thru on Monday!!
southernspeed wrote: | Great photos. What camera/lens did you use? |
Canon EOS 50D with a Canon 70-200 F2.8 & Sigma 28-300. I've only found a couple of places at Brands where those are long enuff to get owt, as ya can't get v much trackside access (that I've found so far) as a punter. _________________ Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul!
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photo chick "not so little Emma"
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the feedback, pics & links some great useful stuff there! _________________ Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul!
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gsxrboy 24/7 Despatch Rider
Joined: 22 Aug 2009 Posts: 154 Location: crawley
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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for brands stand just where it starts going uphill to druids for paddock bend pics, also in the infield for the start of cooper straight, stand up the hill to avoid the fence, also druids itself can be good but fence is a nuisance, unless you apply for media pass _________________ 97 750 srad
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honda fatboy Moto Crosser
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 383 Location: a small dot in your mirrors
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Great pics there Emma
Things I look for in a TD pic
1/ Close in shots of me leaning over, knee down as if I know how to ride properly.
2/ Pics of me into a corner with 1 or 2 other bikes, highlighting we're having a scrap (again preferably looking good/fast
3/ Wider shots with some track/corner scenery or even a banner of the location in background.
4/ Close cropped shots just highlighting that I am riding fast on a track.
I like the one of me with the two other bikes......meets criteria on points 1,2 and 3.
Can't wait to see your full set of pics from Brands. Well done madam.
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photo chick "not so little Emma"
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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PC a said before i think yove hit every scenario a rider would want from a set of pics in your poll as for the trackday photographer i ask the question ....who wants to see the back of emself going away from the camera?
great pics so far keep em coming |
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photo chick "not so little Emma"
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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I'm noticing also that it depends on a person's style of riding what angle you should shoot them from.... Cause Gaz & HFB look best from v different angles, cause of the way HFB hangs right off the bike. _________________ Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul!
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ninjabob Nuggetmeister
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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photo chick wrote: | I just found this online:
Road racing looks fun!! |
Take yourself off to the TT or the NW200 - get some great pics there. _________________ "Those who understand compound interest are destined to collect it.
Those who don't are doomed to pay it." |
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pjsupertart Anti Panty Paula
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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really impressed with you pics PC!!!
just a couple of comments..........
VANESSA: GET YOUR BLOODY KNEE DOWN!!!
THE SLAPPMEISTER: PUT THAT FINGER AWAY
GAZ: GET SOME NEW BOOTS
First pic is very, very impressive. I'd be dead chuffed if i got those as trackday pics And there are many others that are brilliant! _________________ Im not indecisive........when im not given a choice!!
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Bacon bacon© Lil Mush
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Emma,
You got some great shots there, pretty much covers what I would like to see in track day pics.
As others have said, anything that's flattering making there riding ability look as good as possible.
Good lean angles, knee down if I could reach that far, possibly more from the front as you have of teacher and HFB, they look awsome. I would be more than happy with them. The one of HFB with a bike either side of him is quality.
What iv'e seen so far your pictures are far bette than the official photographers. I would suggest that you apply for a press pass and get on the case asap. Are you a member of The Association of Photographers or any other affiliation. They don't get an official press pass but the AoP do their own version which should get you into restricted areas, when I was a member I never used mine but I knew others who did get into restricted areas with it.
The national union of Journalist's (i think that's what they are called) is the best card to get but not easy.
I think you stand as good a chance as anyone.
I look forward to seeing more of me.
Paul _________________ Comfortably Numb
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Tusky Pie Dipper
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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One of my favs
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