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wivvy's dad Cabbage club member #3
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 14655
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: z400 |
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olegit wrote: | I hope you dont mind and alternative view and go on a rant at me,but your bike was parked at boxhill near my rat so had a look. Its not the tank thats wrong its the frame on a hardtail the top down tube comes down in a straight line from the headstock to the back wheel. Thats how its done its not your fault but when the conversion was done it was wrong ,anyway nice finish and clean job but spoilt by the frame.Dont be offended but been building bikes for 30+ years good luck with the ride. |
I think he's right......................... |
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BarryH Cabbage club member #1
Joined: 25 Jun 2004 Posts: 7579
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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I did look at that and think it was odd, but for the money its cost me I wasn't going to get all angle grindy on it. It always was going to be a quick budget build and I wasn't going to start altering frames. The rear tubes should really have been welded on to the rear of the main down tube rather than the back of the loops. In saying that I've had mostly positive comments about it except for the moron who asked the usual "How fast does it go?".....pleb really doesn't get it
Its been fun, on the whole, building it and its still putting a grin on my face when I ride it. In all honesty I'll probably sell it on. I've seen some really nice frames from Hard Up Chops that utilise gsxr or bandit running gear. I may even find an XS650 to flat track. Its all about enjoying myself. If its wasn't a bit of fun in my spare time I wouldn't do it.
Appreciate the input. I'm fairly pleased with the way it turned out. |
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olegit Pedestrian
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 21
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:28 pm Post subject: You work to a budget |
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No i wasnt being funny you should be pleased the way it turned out but if you were to keep it i would re-work the frame and then it would set the lines of better . |
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HCMS Slack Alice/Gay Martian
Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 3794 Location: Scratching head at Tusky's hairpin racing line
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:19 am Post subject: |
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BarryH wrote: | "How fast does it go?" |
Was that me and Tusky?! I must say, I was mightily impressed by the speed you had out of it! Not for the faint hearted or the loose of grip!
You have some problems though Baz, it was awfully boggy and the fuelling was shite!
'til I found the fuel tap _________________ It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes. - Douglas Adams.
No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.
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BarryH Cabbage club member #1
Joined: 25 Jun 2004 Posts: 7579
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:39 am Post subject: Re: You work to a budget |
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olegit wrote: | No i wasnt being funny you should be pleased the way it turned out but if you were to keep it i would re-work the frame and then it would set the lines of better . |
No, I really do appreciate the input. This is the first of this sort of thing that I've attempted. I sort of made it up as I went along. Any input from someone that has more experience of this sort of thing is more than welcome.
I looked at other chops/bobbers while out and about. Compared to some this is a stunner, but to others its still a shed. If you know what I mean. Its all a learning curve and we never stop learning!
HCMS wrote: | Was that me and Tusky?! I must say, I was mightily impressed by the speed you had out of it! Not for the faint hearted or the loose of grip!
You have some problems though Baz, it was awfully boggy and the fuelling was shite! |
Aye its a bit of a kick in the teeth when you offer someone a go on it and they say "Its a bag 'o' Shite, worst fecking thing I ever thrown a leg over!" |
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BarryH Cabbage club member #1
Joined: 25 Jun 2004 Posts: 7579
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Gangsta init! Very Al Capone.
Don't know if I like them or not. They'll probably grow on me.
Oh yeah nearly forgot. Supplied and fitted by Mark at Sothern Speed. Turned out cheaper than quoted. Usual good service/ pricing etc etc. |
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summerman British Superbike Racer
Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 1269 Location: Pound Hill Crawley, West Sussex
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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BarryH wrote: | Gangsta init! Very Al Capone.
Don't know if I like them or not. They'll probably grow on me.
Oh yeah nearly forgot. Supplied and fitted by Mark at Sothern Speed. Turned out cheaper than quoted. Usual good service/ pricing etc etc. |
I like the looks with the white side on the tyres, very impressed with it! again well done Bazza. _________________ The road to success is always under construction.
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biggus illitterātus
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 31748 Location: Hotel California
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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BarryH wrote: | Gangsta init! Very Al Capone.
Don't know if I like them or not. They'll probably grow on me.
Oh yeah nearly forgot. Supplied and fitted by Mark at Sothern Speed. Turned out cheaper than quoted. Usual good service/ pricing etc etc. |
Completes the look _________________
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Carnage British Superbike Racer
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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sorry baz but after all the hard work youve done to try and bring everything together and into line, them thar wheels to me look so random and out of place ....JMHO but if you like it thats all that matters fella _________________ Rust is lighter than carbon fibre! |
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BarryH Cabbage club member #1
Joined: 25 Jun 2004 Posts: 7579
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Been standing looking at it. I think I found whats wrong with it. The colour of the tank and rear guard. The red with fairy dust speckle is wrong. They need to be either dark, ie black, or silver. Silver with something, Pin Stirpes or something like that. Still not right to my eye. |
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HCMS Slack Alice/Gay Martian
Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 3794 Location: Scratching head at Tusky's hairpin racing line
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Love it! _________________ It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes. - Douglas Adams.
No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.
100 Mile Cycle for Macmillan on 4th August 13. Please donate if you can!
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JimBo Pedantic Cnut
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 5394
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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But I agree, black tank and mudguard will complete the look. _________________ So many roads, so little time. |
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andi Polishes his nuts
Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 1828 Location: Basingstoke
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Very impressive Barry _________________
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Benny130 Trials Rider
Joined: 12 Jul 2010 Posts: 268 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Wow what a transformation! U should be proud |
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southernspeed MotoGP Racer
Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 4132 Location: Froststead.
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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BarryH wrote: | Been standing looking at it. I think I found whats wrong with it. The colour of the tank and rear guard. The red with fairy dust speckle is wrong. They need to be either dark, ie black, or silver. Silver with something, Pin Stirpes or something like that. Still not right to my eye. |
Black would look good but 'everyone' who builds a bobber does it black! Not sure silver will go with the tyres. You could go for the heavily 'patina'd ' look and be real old skool, found in the Arizona barn stylee
Dark, burnt orange? _________________ It's not the speed of life that bothers me, it's the sudden stop at the end!
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moriwaki Fleetwood Mac
Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 4076 Location: Stuck in the middle.
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Could take some styling ideas from my favorite bike builder, ex-pat Russel Mitchell of Exile Cycles.
More here....
http://www.exilecycles.com/index.php?section=1 _________________ Just call me Waki. |
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BarryH Cabbage club member #1
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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"Arizona barn stylee
Dark, burnt orange?"
Shouldn't be too hard with this weather. I'll just leave it outside uncovered....
Red Oxide has an appeal at the moment. |
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BarryH Cabbage club member #1
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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It also needs spoked rims. This was supposed to be a budget build. Going for the rims would tip me over the budget. |
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wivvy's dad Cabbage club member #3
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:34 am Post subject: |
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I think that's looking very very nice now Bazza
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Carnage British Superbike Racer
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:25 am Post subject: |
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BarryH wrote: | It also needs spoked rims. This was supposed to be a budget build. Going for the rims would tip me over the budget. |
eureka..........THATS what it is.........was bugging me,yup spoke rims would pull them white walls in nicely.......ya gotta do it Baz ......what is it you always say ...if a jobs worth doing? _________________ Rust is lighter than carbon fibre! |
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BarryH Cabbage club member #1
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:55 am Post subject: |
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MrE wrote: | BarryH wrote: | It also needs spoked rims. This was supposed to be a budget build. Going for the rims would tip me over the budget. |
eureka..........THATS what it is.........was bugging me,yup spoke rims would pull them white walls in nicely.......ya gotta do it Baz ......what is it you always say ...if a jobs worth doing? |
Looking into it, but, well........ http://www.boxhill.co.uk/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=25442 |
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Taz MotoGP Racer
Joined: 13 Apr 2009 Posts: 3995 Location: As far away from reality as possible
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Looks good, defo needs spokes to finish it off though _________________ "Deja Moo" the feeling you have heard this Bullshit before |
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JimBo Pedantic Cnut
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:22 am Post subject: |
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I don't think you will gain anything with "spokes" Barry. It looks great to me.
But, it is a matter of aesthetics and not funtion here. If you want to spoil the look and your bank balance go ahead and get lacing _________________ So many roads, so little time. |
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Taz MotoGP Racer
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:43 am Post subject: |
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It is personal taste of course but the difference between Waki's pic and Baz is phenominal, the modern wheels are ruining the uber "classic" look of the bike. Sure Baz could get a few quid for the wheels on ebay and in turn could get some back off there. It is entirely down to the architect where to go now but think Baz realises that the modern wheels aren't working with the rest of his good work. _________________ "Deja Moo" the feeling you have heard this Bullshit before |
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biggus illitterātus
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