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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WPMOT: Going into the Red through wages not going in and mortgage and other things going out. All thanks to ShatWest. what a w***er

e-mail recieved from our company says all shatwest banks have had problems over the past few days and no one will recieve any charges for going over drawn in a case of thier errors.


Happened to my wife too, they should be shot for letting this happen Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matty wrote:
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WPMOT: Going into the Red through wages not going in and mortgage and other things going out. All thanks to ShatWest. what a w***er

e-mail recieved from our company says all shatwest banks have had problems over the past few days and no one will recieve any charges for going over drawn in a case of thier errors.


Happened to my wife too, they should be shot for letting this happen Evil or Very Mad


Aye just annoying, the consequential loss incured by taking money out of a savings account that requires notice so that I have cash. C'est la vie.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well not today, but yesterday got a PCN thought the post from TFL 'entering and stopping a box junction when prohibited' they sent 2 'stills' says nothing of the fact the exit was clear when I entered it, still putting this little gem together made me smile: Dear Sir/Madam,


In the first instance I am appealing against this penalty charge notice due to defective wording on the PCN,


The PCN is defective and unenforceable

The wording with regards to payment in the PCN is confusing and not compliant with the Transport for London Act 2003. The PCN begins as follows:

A penalty charge of £130.00 is payable before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of this notice. If the penalty charge is paid before the end of the period of 14 days beginning with the date of this notice, the amount of the penalty charge will be reduced by 50%.

This is in accordance with section 4(Cool(iii) and (iv) of the London Local Authorities & Transport for London Act 2003. It then continues to state:

If you fail to pay the penalty charge or make representations before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of this notice...

The above statement is not in accordance with section 4(Cool(iii) of the London Local Authorities & Transport for London Act 2003, it contradicts the previous statement and wrongly suggests that the owner has to pay within 28 days from the "date of service" whereas it should be the "date of this notice". The PCN is therefore defective and should be cancelled.

The following PATAS case was upheld with regards to the same defective PCN wording:

PATAS Case Ref: 2100498211, Mr Naser Dabiri vs.Transport for London

"...the Penalty Charge Notice is defective and unenforceable: whilst the Penalty Charge Notice correctly states that the 14-day and 28-day payment periods begin with the date of the notice in accordance with section 4(Cool(iii) and (iv) of the London Local Authorities & Transport for London Act 2003, the Penalty Charge Notice then goes on to incorrectly state "If you fail to pay the Penalty Charge Notice or make representations before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of this notice..." when the 'date of service' provision does not apply to the 14-day and 28-day payment periods (see above) - it only applies to the local authority having a discretion to disregard representations received by them after the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the Penalty Charge Notice in question was served (in accordance with paragraph 1(3) of Schedule 1 to the 2003 Act)."

additional cases that were upheld over the same defective PCN wording,

PATAS Case Ref: 2100628598, Mr Bryan Henry Siequien vs. Transport for London
PATAS Case Ref: 207037298A, Mr Derek Clotworthy vs. Islington
PATAS Case Ref: 2080336756, Mr Robert Southgate vs. Barnet

In the second instance I am appealing against this penalty charge on the basis of the positioning of the Box junction:

The contravention code entered on the PCN is also incorrect. According to the PCN contravention codes issued by London councils as of April 2012 (PCN codes version 6.6), contraventions using CCTV evidence should carry the suffix "j", therefore the correct code on the PCN should have been "31j" I have included this for your reference.

In the third instance I am appealing against this penalty charge on the basis of the positioning of the Box junction:

DfT Traffic Signs Manual

The Department for Transport has published The Traffic Signs Manual 2003, Chapter 5, Road Signs, page 76, paragraph 12.3, serves as a guideline to authorities that a box junction should not be used where traffic streams merge,

12.3 The Directions do not permit the use of yellow box markings at roundabouts unless traffic entering the box is controlled by signals at all times (see para 8.39 and direction 35). Nor should they be used where traffic streams merge, as it will not be clear which stream has precedence when a gap appears.

The position of the yellow box at Kew Road/Strand on the Green is the merging point of two lanes of traffic into one stream carrying over Kew Bridge.


In the forth instance I am appealing against this penalty charge notice for failure to present evidence:

In you PCN you stated that stopping within a box junction is a contravention. The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 (TSRGD 2002), Schedule 19, Part 2, paragraph 7 provides as follows,

7 (1) Except when placed in the circumstances described in paragraph 8, [box junctions] shall each convey the prohibition that no person shall cause a vehicle to enter the box junction so that the vehicle has to stop within the box junction due to the presence of stationary vehicles.

According TSRGD 2002 a contravention occurs at the point of entry and when a vehicle enters a box junction without a clear exit due to presence of stationary traffic. Therefor the evidence presented in the PCN is insufficient to prove the contravention and I request to see evidence of my vehicle entering the box while stationary vehicles were present.
Furthermore this evidence is also required as I do not believe that my vehicle has actually ‘stopped’ but was in fact crawling into the single carriageway having been impeded be other vehicles in front closing the previously clear exit.


In the fifth instance I am appealing against this penalty charge notice on the basis of use of these cameras:

Code of Practice for Operation of CCTV Enforcement Cameras

The Code of Practice for Operation of CCTV Enforcement Cameras (Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984, Road Traffic Act 1991, Traffic Management Act 2004) provides that camera enforcement signs have to be displayed clearly where a system is in operation,

2.3.5 Relevant camera enforcement signs should be displayed in areas where the system operates. The signs will not define the field of view of the cameras but will advise that CCTV camera enforcement is taking place in the area.

There is no CCTV enforcement sign present to warn the motorists of a CCTV enforcement system anywhere along Chiswick High Rd/Kew Rd prior to the box junction at Kew Road/Strand on the Green and therefore the CCTV enforcement system in use for this box does not abide to the Code of Practice for Operation of CCTV Enforcement Cameras.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loco wrote:
Well not today, but yesterday got a PCN thought the post from TFL


Good luck with that, let us know how you got on. Fed up with the Kangaroo court system enforced by cameras. Sickens me to say it, but we need more trafpol, not cameras.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GLWT

It's one all with me and my local council on PCNs so far Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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GLWT

It's one all with me and my local council on PCNs so far Laughing


I'm on 4-0 to me with sevenoaks and tunbridge councils. The RTO doesn't cover motorcycles unless they park in a bay and fail to pay and display. 1st instance I got a ticket, so I read through the bollocks that is sevenoaks RTO appealed and won, next time my friend got nabbed for one in tunbridge and they had worded the notice incorrectly, next one was a ticket by the council for obstucting a pavement, and yet the pavement was a dead end and still not covered by sevenoaks council (only the plod could have given me a ticket for that) and the 4th was another friend getting the same ticket as number 1. A tip for all of you, appeal appeal appeal.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This.... Finding my disc lock wedged firmly under the front hugger.



The disc lock certainly wasn't like that when i left it. It was locked up where the arrow is.
Looks like someone may have tried to wheel my bike away while i was playing football tonight.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This.... Finding my disc lock wedged firmly under the front hugger.



The disc lock certainly wasn't like that when i left it. It was locked up where the arrow is.
Looks like someone may have tried to wheel my bike away while i was playing football tonight.
Evil or Very Mad


You sure you haven't done a PJDJ on it ...... Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rook wrote:
This.... Finding my disc lock wedged firmly under the front hugger.



The disc lock certainly wasn't like that when i left it. It was locked up where the arrow is.
Looks like someone may have tried to wheel my bike away while i was playing football tonight.
Evil or Very Mad


It did it's job then. Next time is there somewhere more visible to park it?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You sure you haven't done a PJDJ on it ...... Wink Laughing


No it would have gone the other way if he had Laughing

Talking of which ROOK, word of advice, when putting a disc lock on put it up as close to the caliper as you can, that way if you do ride off with it on you won't go forward with enough momentum to damage the disc.
This is coming from someone who knows first hand how expensive a mistake it is Embarrassed
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tango wrote:
You sure you haven't done a PJDJ on it ...... Wink Laughing


No it would have gone the other way if he had Laughing

Talking of which ROOK, word of advice, when putting a disc lock on put it up as close to the caliper as you can, that way if you do ride off with it on you won't go forward with enough momentum to damage the disc.
This is coming from someone who knows first hand how expensive a mistake it is Embarrassed


Think its as visible as i can make it. Its parked in the end bay so there are no cars obscuring & it can be seen clearly from the pitch.I can't park it any closer but it is covered by 2 security camera's ( one of which is a few meters away). But will have a look next time i'm down on site & see if there is anything else that can be done. Smile

I made that same (expensive) mistake a few years ago. Embarrassed
Cheers for the advice PJ will bear that in mind next time i lock the bike up. 2 Thumbs up Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WPMOT. People giving/taking back handers putting their greed before safety. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WPMOT. People giving/taking back handers putting their greed before safety. Evil or Very Mad

Eh?
You must have been speaking to any of our many government departments...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finding out a mate is in hospital after getting knocked off his bike late Wed evening.
He believes a Black Ford Galaxy belonging to Addison lee Taxis ran in to the rear o/s of his bike sending him and the bike flying and then drove off without stopping. Bike is a write off and he is lucky to escape with a few broken bones and gravel rash..
Still not sure if there were any witnesses to the accident but enquirers are being made.

Lets be careful out there.. and watch out for them Green Badge Holders as none of them can drive... Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starter motor on the Tuono sounding rough a few times today........hope it's not the dreaded sprag gear on the way out Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WPMOT: Going to be getting my new bike wet, first rain is like the first dent, it's inevitable, but not welcomed Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im just wondering how long its going to take before i can take no more of these prozac riddled drivers down here in the land of carrot crunchers Confused
25 in a 50 zone ......ffs realllllllly?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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im just wondering how long its going to take before i can take no more of these prozac riddled drivers down here in the land of carrot crunchers Confused
25 in a 50 zone ......ffs realllllllly?


ahhhh you struggling to keep up? Hide behind sofa Wink
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Thats the problem these days, no patience..........oh and green badge holders don't drive Addison Lee miniscabs.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gatton Bottom .... bloody shingle everywhere
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gatton Bottom .... bloody shingle everywhere


keeps you on your toes Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poxy weather. Enough said. Rain God
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Poxy weather. Enough said. Rain God


+1,000,000 to that.

Seriously considering investing in a dirt bike to take advantage of the rain and mud.
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Poxy weather. Enough said. Rain God


+1,000,000 to that.

Seriously considering investing in a dirt bike to take advantage of the rain and mud.


Wot about the weather????














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Poxy weather. Enough said. Rain God


+1,000,000 to that.

Seriously considering investing in a dirt bike to take advantage of the rain and mud.


Wot about the weather????

Hide behind sofa


What's that I hear? A Suzuki fizzing and dissolving in the rain? Laughing behind hand
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