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Advanced Training - Don't be one of the 20%
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Do you need to learn more about how to ride your Bike?
Yes - You can never learn too much
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Nah - I have the experience and know it all already
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

best lesson ever taught to me many moons ago was to ride like every one is out to get you .......i didnt realise they meant the mate following tho Shocked

banter over ......Bou im not trying to preach to you but this is an established forum and although i can see you meant well by posting up the details you posted ...dont you think this discussion has been debated battled wrung out and hung out to dry several times before ?......honestly fella dont take too much too heart ...its an old arguement to which there is NO real winner ....someone has already said it ....each to thier own.Wink

will someone lock this now cos its gone from informative to entertaiing to boring
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boudicas wrote:
wivvy's dad wrote:
What I cannot tolerate is someone fresh from a couple of either IAM or ROSPA rides, maintaining that those institutions are THE repository of advanced riding excellence. Yes, they will give you a badge and a piece of paper that tells you that you are an advanced rider.

But you are not.

It takes more than a few observed rides, and a badge/piece of paper to truly be a rider of advanced capabilities.


It sticks in my throat to say this but.... I agree totally with WD here. (I'm feeling quit ill after admitting that now Smile ) But it also takes a lot more that 40 years of riding and qualifications gained X number of years ago for anyone to be justified in slagging off any people or organizations that provide any form of extra training.

No-one said that the IAM or RoSPA are the Be all and end all of Advanced training (at least I didn't). Mainly because IMHO they are not. The only reason I started this thread was to make the members of this forum aware that they existed, that you got a hell of a lot for your money and that they were local to everyone.

This bit of info was replied to by saying that they were a bunch of old farts. A comment that could only serve to put people off going to them for training. As lil Mush said - the idea is to get training - not to make friends (although I have made quite a few there).

FWIW - I'm in both these organizations and have yet to meet anyone who thinks they know it all and who isn't still trying to learn but I have met a couple of people I would put into the Twat category along with some members of this forum.

Before you respond - Im not "collecting qualifications" to tell everyone about as WD seems to think ... Im just becoming a better, safer rider and having a lot of fun doing it...


My problem with this thread is that, as someone who has only done their CBT in April, the tone of your original post is way over the top. It reads as if you know best. You don't.

You may have some valid points on all angles of life, but, in my grand opinion, your ability to put them across needs some real work. This is one of a couple of threads where I believe it is your keyboard tone that creates the defensive / offensive replies.

Like the townie moving to the country village. The village has been around for some time, it is up to you to fit in, not make the village stop ringing the church bells because you do not like the noise.

All this back tracking can be avoided by a better approach.

Damm you Slappy, you posted whilst I was editing. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt I can add to anything, as it's all been said! Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Advanced Training - Don't be one of the 20% Reply with quote

[quote="boudicas"]I have seen a few people on the forum who are interested / have gone for Advanced training and having looked up the cost thought it might be an idea to put up a couple of cheaper (but just as good if not better) alternatives that will also drop your insurance costs as well as keeping you alive.



Think this may have been missed


Rapid training

One Day Advanced Motorcycle £149 - (One to One £259)
Two Day Advanced (incl Bed and Breakfast) £375.



Both the IAM and RoSPA cost between £110 - £140 for an unlimited number of Observed / Training Rides and that price includes the cost of the Advanced Test and a years membership to both your local group and the IAM / RoSPA.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*rumages in attic
*rumages in cupboard

Where the Fuck is it .....

* rumages in sideboard drawers


ahhh here it is
























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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All this back tracking can be avoided by a better approach.


Thanks for the critique on my written language skills!! - can you point out where I backtracked?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boudicas wrote:
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All this back tracking can be avoided by a better approach.


Thanks for the critique on my written language skills!! - can you point out where I backtracked?


http://www.boxhill.co.uk/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=17933

I should add short memory to the list as well.

PS I was only trying to help you, but if you want to bring it on, please do. Obviously insecurity is a natural virtue of yours.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.boxhill.co.uk/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=17933

I should add short memory to the list as well.

PS I was only trying to help you, but if you want to bring it on, please do. Obviously insecurity is a natural virtue of yours.


Thats not backtracking just a decision not to let the bullying twats that post on this forum force me away. There are too many good people here that have worthwhile and constructive things to say for me to walk away.

And as far as trying to help me by giving communication tips? - Go Fuck yourself ya patronizing bastard!!! Hows that for communicating?

Now is there any change that we can actually post about motorcycles and stuff rather than try to Bully each other as if we were back in infant school???
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boudicas wrote:
MarcBC wrote:


http://www.boxhill.co.uk/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=17933

I should add short memory to the list as well.

PS I was only trying to help you, but if you want to bring it on, please do. Obviously insecurity is a natural virtue of yours.


Thats not backtracking just a decision not to let the bullying twats that post on this forum force me away. There are too many good people here that have worthwhile and constructive things to say for me to walk away.

And as far as trying to help me by giving communication tips? - Go Fuck yourself ya patronizing bastard!!! Hows that for communicating?

Now is there any change that we can actually post about motorcycles and stuff rather than try to Bully each other as if we were back in infant school???


Poor dear, I appear to have upset you. Hey Ho, life goes on. My deliberate post was no more patronising than your first. Perhaps now you can see what I meant about communicating. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SLAPPY© wrote:
will someone lock this now cos its gone from informative to entertaiing to boring


My sentiments exactly. It's a shame as it's an interesting topic and would have remained as such had mud not been slung Sad
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