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biggus · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:23 am Post subject:

They should be allowed equal access to the political table as any other party. The fact that they have won seats should really be a wake up call to the 3 main parties that something is amiss in their respective camps... A point probably missed while they were fiddling their expenses claims... There are some policies that the BNP have that I happen to agree with, likewise, there are some policies from the more mainstream ones I agree with. Now, that doesn't mean I'm going to vote for them, just means that some of what they are saying will no doubt strike a chord with some voters. Still original question, yes, they should be allowed on - give them enough rope and I'm sure they'll hang themselves, ironically, apparently, the picture of the Spitfire they're using is a Polish Spitfire with a Polish pilot Laughing

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GT · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:43 am Post subject:

biggus · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:35 am Post subject:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, 'aunty' has to be politically impartial, so to deny a valid political party equal rights to access to their debate arena would be wrong and against their constitution or charter? TBH, they'd have Gordon Brown on without question, and he's IMO a far bigger w@nker than Nick Griffin, just in different ways...
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Taz · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:00 am Post subject:

Majority of this argument will soon be irrelevant since when Labour signs the Lisbon Treaty (and they will) you might as well have Humpty Dumpty running this country (although we have an almost perfect double doing so at the moment) because we won't be governed locally anymore, president Blair will see to that.......
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Loco · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:41 am Post subject:

Free country isn't it.....

Isn't it???????????
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ninjabob · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:56 am Post subject:

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This is all good news for the BNP, no matter what way you look at it.

The publicity that they have had from this is huge, everyone is speaking about the BNP at the moment.

I really hope that he is given a battering on the programme, i hope that he is made to look a complete fool and that the whole thing backfires.

But

Even if it did, it wouldn't matter. Do you honestly think the type of people that want to vote for this clown are going to watch 'question time'? And even if they did watch it, will they understand what is being 'discussed'? No, of course they won't. Generally, the type of people that would vote for him and his party arn't the sharpest tools in the box.

So for Griffin, this is a win win. All the publicity he wants, and it doesn't matter if he looks bad on the programme.

Can you imagine any of these watching 'question time', or looking into the party policies????

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Thats a very cynical view chap. I mean just look at the upstanding citizens in the picture. They're even obeying Health and Safety with the proper PPE.....

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Windy · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:45 am Post subject:

The UK is all about free speech and if the BNP are prevented from airing their views, then what's the point of living in a democracy. Regardless of whether you agree with their propaganda, they should be allowed to have their say.
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Windy · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:25 am Post subject:

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Flipper · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:50 am Post subject:

Yes they should be allowed on Question time as they are a recognised political party, whether or not people agree with their policies is another matter. They have elected members on some councils so as such they represent a view of some British people.

You might not like them and what they stand for - but hey ho - I don't like what some fanatical Muslium groups stand for - Remember the group in Luton who thought it would be good to demonstrate against returning British war heros??

If you don't agree with their policies then you don't have to vote for them - however they DO represent the views of some people.
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southernspeed · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:03 pm Post subject:

Rossi Bird · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:48 pm Post subject:

It's very true, i work with a lot of older people who agree with the general idea of them and what they stand for.

It's a shame we often feel press ganged into being PC because we dont want to look "bad" Rolling Eyes

Whatever paper shuffing cnut gets their own way will ruin what little we have left, It's time for "direct action" i'm afraid.
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Suzibabe · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:27 pm Post subject:

In the recent local/ european elections the only campaigning leaflet that came through the door was the BNP. Rolling Eyes

Also, I'd noticed on Facebook that my friend's son and his mates (all in their early 20s and looking for work) thought that they looked like a good group to vote for because the leaflet had said "British jobs for British workers" not realising the full import of what it meant.

ninjabob · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:08 am Post subject:

Well what do you reckon? - certainly the other panellists had had their researchers do their homework on Nick Griffin for them - he did not come over very well in my opinion - the audience was far from representative of the UK population - very few in the audience were over 50 - it looked like there was a disproportionate number of people from ethnic minorities.

Rent a mob turned up outside Television Centre - much as they would turn up for just about anything.

I do not agree with Mr Griffin on his policies, however if you ask me whether I would like to turn back the clock to the Sixties Britain that I remember I would jump at the opportunity.

What I have observed about this country and its recent Immigration policy is that the rest of us have been brought down to their level - Lowest Common Denominator - the scum rules.

Overcrowding in towns in this country is getting a serious issue - we are struggling to live together in harmony - neighbours don't know each other - people are just downright aggressive - jobs are scarce - the underclass is real (ask GT and Mouse).

We have some serious issues in this country that need to be addressed and until a mainstream party is prepared to tackle some of these issues head on Mr Griffin will continue to get the more votes of disgruntled voters.

Nick Griffins appearance on Question Time was wholly justified in my opinion - he has two elected MEPs. It was refreshing to see democracy at work - all be it with what looked to be a particularly hostile audience.
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wivvy's dad · Cabbage club member #3 Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 14655

David Dimbleby was a very poor chairman

Nick Griffin does not "spin"

The audience was non-representative

The whole programme seemed to be biased against the BNP

No issues of the day were discussed

Very poor in my opinion - let's bash the BNP

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Flintstone · Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:31 am Post subject:

I thought the prog was very interesting tonight, but I don't think it has done much damage to the bnp's growing support. The panel and audience was carefully selected, but the plan was almost destroyed by mr straw.
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I've just finished watching it now.

Well, he came across as a lying cunt to me. (sorry if i spelt didn't spell that cnut) Hopefully, informed, normal, educated people will see the same.

Did he actually answer any questions correctly? I can't thing of any.

I felt that the muslim tory, can't remember her name, came across very well. I found myself nodding at much of what she said.

Even Jack Straw came across quite well, at the beginning.

I still stand by what I said earlier, even though he came across as a complete lying knobhead, I still think it has done his racist, disgusting party more good than not.

If anything good is to come from this the entire BNP issue, in it's entirity, then it is that the mainstream parties will now look more closely at their immigration policies. Which I think the majority of the country wants addressing.

Is the BNP the answer to this?

Fuck NO

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As far as I can make out, a vote for the BNP is a protest vote, pure and simple.

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