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CaptMoto · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:00 pm Post subject:

oh and I've forgot to mention that more and more as i wade through heavy traffic in London I notice that not only 80% of the drivers are on the mobile but there is this new wave of brand spanking new jap cars that have dvd screen in the middle of dashboard and on the back of the head rest, which is ok for passengers but, not for the drivers watching the latest dvd. Tell me how that lot are going to be concentrating on their driving when Blade III is on? And how is it that such devices are allowed to be fitted in the front of a car?
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birdbrain · Learner Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 56 Location: London

1stgarry makes a good point. You all do but what if you could ride just as safe with music on? garry says i need all my senses make no mistake they are all on full alert when im riding the music isnt so loud i cant hear other vechiles that would be stupid. I have it on to sort of pass time but it doesnt distract me like you all thing it would. As someone mentioned earlyier they use intercoms to train learners. BMW also make a helmet with built in radio! Surely they would have tested if it was safe or not?

Rossi Bird · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject:

i totally agree with you but lets not bring the name of us bikers down to these twats levels of stupidity!
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Thumper · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject:

I used to listen to music when I had a 50 mile commute every day, then I nearly got run over by an ambulance I didn't hear which made me realise it's the most stupid thing you can do.

Not only are you not aware of sounds around you, your attention is on the tune thats playing and trust me you'll be singing along rather than observing surrounding traffic and looking in your mirrors.

If you get bored on a ride then make stupid names out of peoples numberplates instead Wink

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Jam · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:20 pm Post subject:

Thumper · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject:

So do I, it's why the roads are so clear when I go to work Wink

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Bonus · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject:

I just smile to myself
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Mr Tickle · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:55 pm Post subject:

I just fart.
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Bonus · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:00 pm Post subject:

Mate sort that avatar out, looks like you killed a squid!!!!!
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Thumper · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:02 pm Post subject:

That's what I was thinking, it's really quite evil!

Attack of the Killer Jellyfish Shocked

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big al · Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:55 pm Post subject:

im with jam on this,i just sing to myself

. & fart

with the beat of the music.
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birdbrain · Learner Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 56 Location: London

zedchick you didnt read my last reply.

1stGarry · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:59 pm Post subject:

birdbrain · Learner Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 56 Location: London

fair enough gary but all the

CaptMoto · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject:

alleluyah!!

Those who choose to listen to music on the bike do so at their own risk and peril, and are more than willing to pay for the damages to themselves and other if any occurs, I take my hat to this young man who, at an early motorcycling age already shows to be sensible enough to ride observing due care and attention. hopefully he is not going to kill anyone in the process, because as he said it, nothing but the ultimate is going to modify his confidence.

Thumbs up

just be careful. like my farther told me is what i'd tell my son.
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1stGarry · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject:

BB - it's your life, and I do hope your biking is incident free.
Look forward to riding with you sometime.
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Tinks · Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:53 pm Post subject:

each to there own, but teenages r more likeyto get hit by a car crossing a road than a 5yr old......... thats fact, and y ........ cos they have walkmen ipods on.

i did play music when i 1st passed my test, but not anymore just sing now Wink

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birdbrain · Learner Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 56 Location: London

Thanks for all your replies especially captmoto who seems to be the only guy on my side Smile

but i do understand why everyone else is not. 1stgarry i look forward to riding with you also, same to you captmoto. Thanks for ll the advice Smile

CaptMoto · Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:22 pm Post subject:

I need to make one last observation on the subject of this thread.

Fair enough, we all appreciate it is not legal nor safe to ride with headphones on, but then i can't help but noticing that... 90% of bikes out there have aftermarket cans / exhausts systems fitted. This is infact the most popular mod that people get as soon as they get a new bike, more often than not these cans are very loud.

As a result, i have seen that half of my mates that ride with me and the majority of superbike wannabees out there are using those orange or green noise reducing earplugs in their earholes, either because of the noise their cans emit or to try and soften the wind noise cause by the helmet drag when riding at decent speed (70mph and above), so... my point is... how can you hear other noises, like police sirens, ambulances or even car horns when u have earbuds and loud cans? what is the difference between that and listening to music?
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1stGarry · Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:46 pm Post subject:

I must admit that I find the wearing of earplugs a curious thing.
I understand from the health point of view that riders want to protect their hearing, and it's the windnoise that does the most damage to our hearing rather than our exhausts (unless you happen to run a V&H system on a Buell Hehe

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But windnoise can be greatly reduced by wearing the right helmet.

So, in an ideal world we would wear a wind reducing lid, fit the quietest exhausts to our bikes and not travel above 40mph!!
Then we could do away with earplugs.
It's not going to happen is it?!!

And I happen to believe that my (not guiet) exhaust is definitely a safety feature on my bike.
And I don't bother with earplugs. Smile

And I can hear the traffic around me Smile

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CaptMoto · Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:58 pm Post subject:

i hear you 1stGarry.... but this is your personal statement and you are an exception to the norm, I was hoping to get a response as to the comparison or difference in between music via headphones and loud cans + earplug situation.... i guess your reply was a little off target. no offence intended.
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Mr Tickle · Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:32 pm Post subject:

I love riding with ear plugs. Not really to bothered about wind noise, but it gives a a less intense riding experience which (for me) smooths out my riding.
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Thumper · Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:37 pm Post subject:

I have race cans on both bikes, the CBR's can is not much louder than standard and the Zeds quad flame throwers are only slightly more fruity than original Embarrassed

I can hear everything and choose not to wear earplugs as I don't get on with them. Also an exhaust tone is an ambient sound, it is not going directly to your eardrums. Another point is that it's the vibrations that damage your hearing and eardrums not the pitch of the sound.
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Mr Tickle · Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject:

Mind you, if it weren't for the fact that I get them by the bucket load form work, I probably wouldn't bother
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