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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SkinnyHulk wrote:
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Oh FFS Sad

Funnily enough that is exactly what I said to myself when I saw it for the first time!

I saw the 50 and thought fuck this, and stuck at 60, gonna get my hack saw out sometime


Does really need something at that turning at the bottom though, seen so many smack ups there over the years.

BTW... Like the way that Google Maps put "mobile homes" rather than "pikey camp" on the bottom of Polhill Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

biggus wrote:
SkinnyHulk wrote:
JimBo wrote:
biggus wrote:
Oh FFS Sad

Funnily enough that is exactly what I said to myself when I saw it for the first time!

I saw the 50 and thought fuck this, and stuck at 60, gonna get my hack saw out sometime


Does really need something at that turning at the bottom though, seen so many smack ups there over the years.

BTW... Like the way that Google Maps put "mobile homes" rather than "pikey camp" on the bottom of Polhill Laughing


that turning at the bottom they have put two traffic islands which IMO has made the road even fucking worse, whereas before people turning right had plenty of time to move over and get in position, now they block the road with a pinch point and if many cars want to get over it becomes silly.
As for the smack ups at the bottom of the road the problem still hasn't been solved as there was another minor one on Saturday, and yet they left the bit outside polhill garden centre a 60. crazy mo-fo's. it hasn't help that many moons ago most of that road coming down was dual carriageway, but because the bank was eroding they made it single.
oh and the reason it changed was because of the lycra louts getting scared by cars. http://cds.sevenoaks.gov.uk/documents/s1967/Item%2008%20-%20A224%20Polhill%20and%20London%20Road.pdf
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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oh and the reason it changed was because of the lycra louts getting scared by cars.

I hope you're winding me up here Matt!

Personally I don't have any problem going down Polhill on my bicycle as I generally come up behind some numpty doing 30, then slamming their brakes on to 20 because they can't see round the "tight" bend at the bottom.

Going up is a very different story. The gradient slows cyclists down considerably, and the curve near the top "hides" them from view until very late. But actually it wouldn't matter to me being hit at 40, 50, 60mph or more as it would probably kill me no matter what speed they were doing.

The whole thing became a problem years ago when the bank slipped and they singled out the uphill northbound carriageway leaving no room to overtake. That should have been a temporary measure but, of course, here we are years and years later with it still in place.

I now prefer to go up Star Hill or even the old Polhill which is now a bridleway and comes out at the Polhill Arms as was.

As I said at lunch on Sunday, as soon as you start prescribing seperation of different traffic types then you leave us all wide open to interpretation. I don't think motorcyclist should be mixed with HGVs because they are so much more vulnerable (see what I did there?).

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember when the M25 was just Godstone to Sevenoaks and we'd crawl up Polhill for 45-50 minutes in the car. old

Needs to be one lane up, one down, barrier down the middle because people in cars/on motorcycles just ignore solid whites, and it needs up/down cycle lanes.

The trouble with pedal cyclists is their "progress" varies even more than other single type of road user. Down Polhill, an enthusiastically ridden pedal cycle could easily top the 50mph limit, but also as likely, is someone rubbing the brakes all the way down at 10mph, no other road user type shows such performance variation.

FWIW, I have seen far too many motorcyclists/car drivers/& cyclists creamed on that road over the years. IMHO get rid of the Pilgrims way junction and put all that traffic down to the roundabout, left & left.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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IMHO get rid of the Pilgrims way junction and put all that traffic down to the roundabout, left & left.


Now that's a very good idea Exclamation You're not as stupid as you look are you Dunc Laughing .
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