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biggus · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:49 pm Post subject: ABS

There's apparently a 37% lower risk of having a motorcycle fatal crash if your bike has ABS.

Is this because ABS is good and saves certain situations?

or

Is it because those who choose to purchase a motorcycle fitted with ABS are more safety concious riders and perhaps ride more conservatively?

discuss Razz

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SkinnyHulk · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject:

I vote the latter, for several reasons
1.Most motorcycles that come with ABS cost more therefore on average the age range of the motorcyclist will be higher
2. A more safety conscientious rider would be more likely to purchase a bike with ABS
3. The squids who ride expensive bikes without ABS typically bought the bike second hand
3.5. Said squids may not maintain brakes on non-abs bikes adequately
4.In general the type of bike that comes with ABS until recently hasn't been your typical GSXR, R1 CBR1000 etc
5. What type of ABS are the stats derided from, for example BMW ABS= dogs bollocks, whereas old suzuki and honda ABS = dogs arse,
6. The typical motorcycles with ABS are not sports bikes or mopeds which account for a greater number of accidents http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2012/04/guide-to-the-2012-motorcycles-and-scooters-with-abs.html

http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2010/04/iihs-study-motorcycles-with-antilock-brakes-are-much-safer.html
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ninjabob · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:27 pm Post subject:

How many ZZR1400 ABS owners do you know who ride conservatively? Laughing

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Flintstone · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:58 pm Post subject:

It's probably the older generation that go for ABS, hence they are less likely to crash. You could start to rely on it when one day it stops working and down you go, or switch to a second bike that doesn't have it & lock wheels. I have never tried a bike with ABS and I hope I never will, it's bad enough having to put up with it in cars.
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biggus · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:42 am Post subject:

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biggus · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:57 am Post subject:

nosnowking · World Superbike Racer Joined: 23 Apr 2009 Posts: 1907

I reckon it's a combination of the two. ABS technology is improving for motorcycles and becoming less intrusive, but as biggus says, a good ABS system will only kick in if you have made an error and are braking too hard. I had ABS on the Bandit and only had it engage once, on a wet, slippery ferry slip road. It did its job but felt horribly intrusive.

I don't know how sports bike riders feel about ABS, and whether they would want it kicking in on a track day?

As the technology becomes more prevalent, cheaper and more reliable I'm sure we'll be seeing it made compulsory for bikes as it is for cars. I'm sure I've seen this link already posted on the forum. http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-industry/mandatory-abs-set-for-motorcycles/18510.html

Loco · Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:30 am Post subject:

Nuclear Red · Speedway Rider Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 519

When I crashed by BMW K1200RS three years ago I think I could have avoided the collision by braking harder, the bike had ABS but I was reluctant to brake and lose the front end, which wouldnt have happened with the ABS.
How many of us would actually use it in the dry.
I think its for night time, wet road, slippery conditions that catch you out at lower braking forces.
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