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Thumper · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject: Young Riders on Superbikes

Went to Bury Hill today and saw something that made me think hmmmm Confused

Four guys were parked infront of me, they had a ZX6R, GSX-R750, GSX-R1000 and an R1. They looked REALLY young and I just had to ask. The ages are as follows:

ZX6R - 18
GSX-R750 - 18
GSX-R1000 - 19
R1 - 18

This frightened me. I think it's absolutely insane for them to be riding these types of bikes at their age and by the way they were talking it sounded like none of them had insurance, possibly even no licence as they laughed off my comments about high insurance. They all left in a rage of testosterone fuelled vertical wheelies. Now I wish I had the guts to jump on an R1 and pull huge wheelies at 18 years old by for gods sake!

What do you think?
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Jam · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:03 pm Post subject:

I dont think generalizations should be made... I personally wouldn't have wanted to get on a bike like an R1 when I was in-experienced.. but who's to say someone's inexperienced just because they're 18.. they could've been racing for years already...

Equally I could come up with a lot of examples of older people who shouldn't be on the roads at all let alone machines capable of triple figure MPH Wink

just have a read of the Argus to see someone who's 27 (no spring chicken there) who killed himself, his passenger and a completely innocent man in another car by driving his BMW like a loony...

I think it would be better to say dont let stupid/inexperienced/crazy people on superbikes Wink

p.s. i wonder what the chances are that any of those bikes were restricted as they would HAVE to be given their ages...

Jam · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:04 pm Post subject:

p.p.s if you are right about them having no insurance then that is something worth getting pissed off at..... they could kill someone and probably face 2 or 3 years max in prison... and who would fit the bill? Us.

I think the penalty for riding/driving with no insurance should be far far far higher.

firestorm · World Superbike Racer Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 1528

Age,,,,Mate of mine many years ago passed his test on a 125 just after his
17 Birthday,, the 125 was borrowed as the only biking he had done was on a geared ped, not twist and go. He passed the test..(you had to be
really sh*t not to in them days)..so he then went straight out and bought himself a Z1000.
All I can say is he did'nt have it very long and he did'nt sell it. Sad

It was fecked,,trashed it and all because he just could'nt handle it.

Insurance..
How much would you think an 18 year old on a bike like the R1
would have to pay for Insurance?...
We are talking a lot of cash,,I think more than most could afford.
So if your local paper has a section from the local Magistrates Court
have a look and see what the fines are for Riding/Driving without
insurance.
Our local courts are handing out fines of around £30.00-£100.00.
+ points only payable if you get caught. So the choice is yours
Pay £1000.00+ for insurance or pay £30.00-£100.00 fines.

AJ · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:36 pm Post subject:

Hmmm

Very very interesting.

Especssh with £500 excess.

???
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Notorius · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:37 pm Post subject:

Athos · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject:

Athos · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:53 pm Post subject:

whoops doubled clicked
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wildman · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:57 pm Post subject:

As long as they are complying with all the relevent rules regarding restriction,insurance etc then why not. I dread to think what the cost of insuring an R1 at 18 is though. Shocked

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Mr Tickle · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:02 pm Post subject:

wildman · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject:

Mind you if they are all legal then they are jammy little gits and I hate em!! Wink

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Athos · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject:

big al · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:16 pm Post subject:

blimey im 34 yrs, & i can't get insurance on a R1, these kids have probably got insurance,, do you think there parents would let them go out on such machines without insurance,( bolloxs if i would) if they are, then the parents should take part blame in the worst happens
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i agree with jam crack down on people with no insurance we pay for there f**k ups

Notorius · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:29 pm Post subject:

Out of interest Zed, what were they wearing?
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Rossi Bird · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:33 pm Post subject:

i only passed my test last year, went out a bought a zx6 and insured it for peanuts tbh. I dont think age is a factor, i've seen plenty of old gits ride like total tossers too Crying or Very sad

.If you've got the money and it's what u want, go for it.
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Athos · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject:

Rossi Bird · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject:

i'm all woman mate Wink

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Notorius · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:46 pm Post subject:

Yeah, apparently being female gets you a lower insurance premium.
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Mr Tickle · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:47 pm Post subject:

Something your not telling us?
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Rossi Bird · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:48 pm Post subject:

hmmm maybe, i think it depends quite a few things, all insurers ask different questions. No one will ever work out how they calculate premiums Confused

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biggus · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:06 pm Post subject:

Hmmm well if it's all legit then why not.... However i would not be here today if i had jumped on a superbike at 18
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1stGarry · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:59 pm Post subject:

At 18 you're a lairy git who is likely to take stupid risks on a bike, and you think you're indistructible! I know it's a generalisation, but it holds true for the majority of young bikers.

There are less young bikers having accidents than "older" bikers, but only because there are less young bikers on the road.
But young bikers have a higher percentage of accidents per mile than older riders, and experienced riders have even less accidents per mile.

So logistically it makes sense to restrict the bikes available to young 'uns until they've got that "all essential experience".

In a roundabout sort of way this is already happenning - insurance is so high for younger riders that most of them can't afford R1s, Blades etc.
And why?
Because they keep crashing them!
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Matty · Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:04 pm Post subject:

they must be loaded to have those bikes at there age

wildman · Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:15 am Post subject:

Either that or they AIN'T doing it legally.
A distinct possibility according to Zed's first post.
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