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| biggus wrote: | WPMOT. Workshy wankers on strike... So the "cushty" days of being a public sector worker are finally drawing to a close, boof*ckinghoo... it's about time you pricks woke up and smelt the coffee of reality, take your picket line and shove it up your arsehole  |
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| biggus wrote: | | WPMOT. Workshy wankers on strike... So the "cushty" days of being a public sector worker are finally drawing to a close, boof*ckinghoo... it's about time you pricks woke up and smelt the coffee of reality, take your picket line and shove it up your arsehole |
If your not after a  I could take offence at that ....... 
Dont fall for the right wing bullshit in our newspapers, they never give the true facts .... !
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| Tango wrote: | | biggus wrote: | | WPMOT. Workshy wankers on strike... So the "cushty" days of being a public sector worker are finally drawing to a close, boof*ckinghoo... it's about time you pricks woke up and smelt the coffee of reality, take your picket line and shove it up your arsehole |
If your not after a I could take offence at that .......
Dont fall for the right wing bullshit in our newspapers, they never give the true facts .... ! |
Well... I don't read the paper, I do actually have a mind of my own.
I think it's plain wrong that people are being given false promotions in the last couple of years of their employment to boost their final salary pension... Yes this does actually happen - I know several people who openly admit that they were pushed up the ranks to "invented posts" a few grades up, not on merit, but purely to boost their final salary pension. Now I'm sorry, but that's my and your tax pounds & your pension fund that is being misused like that, so yeah, if you've been an "average" worker for 38 out of 40 years service, you should get an average pension. This is fairer on those who may in the latter years of their career go part time too...
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| biggus wrote: | | Tango wrote: | | biggus wrote: | | WPMOT. Workshy wankers on strike... So the "cushty" days of being a public sector worker are finally drawing to a close, boof*ckinghoo... it's about time you pricks woke up and smelt the coffee of reality, take your picket line and shove it up your arsehole |
If your not after a I could take offence at that .......
Dont fall for the right wing bullshit in our newspapers, they never give the true facts .... ! |
Well... I don't read the paper, I do actually have a mind of my own.
I think it's plain wrong that people are being given false promotions in the last couple of years of their employment to boost their final salary pension... Yes this does actually happen - I know several people who openly admit that they were pushed up the ranks to "invented posts" a few grades up, not on merit, but purely to boost their final salary pension. Now I'm sorry, but that's my and your tax pounds & your pension fund that is being misused like that, so yeah, if you've been an "average" worker for 38 out of 40 years service, you should get an average pension. This is fairer on those who may in the latter years of their career go part time too... |
I can only comment on the NHS pension scheme.
FACT 1 We have excepted changes to the scheme.
FACT 2 The pension age is now 65 ( was 60 )
FACT 3 The final salary pension is now a career ave scheme
FACT 4 We are being asked to pay %50 more each month, for no benefit.
FACT 5 This is on top of a 2 year pay freeze.
Would you not take action against your employer !!!!
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| Tango wrote: | FACT 5 This is on top of a 2 year pay freeze.
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Be nice to have gotten a pay increase in the private sector any time in the last 10 years, I'd be over the moon with a 2 year pay freeze, that works out at 5 more pay rises than I've had!!
My other half is a civil servant and it amazes me the shit they get away with 
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| Tango wrote: | | biggus wrote: | | Tango wrote: | | biggus wrote: | | WPMOT. Workshy wankers on strike... So the "cushty" days of being a public sector worker are finally drawing to a close, boof*ckinghoo... it's about time you pricks woke up and smelt the coffee of reality, take your picket line and shove it up your arsehole |
If your not after a I could take offence at that .......
Dont fall for the right wing bullshit in our newspapers, they never give the true facts .... ! |
Well... I don't read the paper, I do actually have a mind of my own.
I think it's plain wrong that people are being given false promotions in the last couple of years of their employment to boost their final salary pension... Yes this does actually happen - I know several people who openly admit that they were pushed up the ranks to "invented posts" a few grades up, not on merit, but purely to boost their final salary pension. Now I'm sorry, but that's my and your tax pounds & your pension fund that is being misused like that, so yeah, if you've been an "average" worker for 38 out of 40 years service, you should get an average pension. This is fairer on those who may in the latter years of their career go part time too... |
I can only comment on the NHS pension scheme.
FACT 1 We have excepted changeto the scheme.
FACT 2 The pension age is now 65 ( was 60 )
FACT 3 The final salary pension is now a career ave scheme
FACT 4 We are being asked to pay %50 more each month, for no benefit.
FACT 5 This is on top of a 2 year pay freeze.
Would you not take action against your employer !!!! |
I have no company pension, nor have I had a pay rise in a good number of years. I have no union & the company would not recognise one if I did. My gripe, is largely with the teachers, I was married to one and they really are a waste of space and don't stop f*king whining....  . The governors of her school were complicit in what can best be described as fraud by giving old timers extra points on the pay scale in the last couple of years service to boost their pension, if they are outing this practice then bloody good job too - it's that sort of widespread abuse of the system that helped cause the deficit (a friend who's a Police occifer retired this year and had their pay bigged up to boost their pension too!!!)!! How exactly can a pension be expected to pay out based on a level that has not been contributed for... if the public sector as a whole kept their house in order and weren't greedy with fraudulent pre-retirement promotions then this scenario could well have been avoided.
Unfortunately, it's not your fault... successive governments have not taken this in hand, the last lot of pricks in power should have done years ago, but they didn't. Whomever came to power in the last election would have had to face this.
I am expected to work until I am 65, although I suspect it by that time will be 70
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| PJ_DJ wrote: | | Tango wrote: | FACT 5 This is on top of a 2 year pay freeze.
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Be nice to have gotten a pay increase in the private sector any time in the last 10 years, I'd be over the moon with a 2 year pay freeze, that works out at 5 more pay rises |
A race to the bottom is not the answer .......
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| biggus wrote: | | Tango wrote: | | biggus wrote: | | Tango wrote: | | biggus wrote: | | WPMOT. Workshy wankers on strike... So the "cushty" days of being a public sector worker are finally drawing to a close, boof*ckinghoo... it's about time you pricks woke up and smelt the coffee of reality, take your picket line and shove it up your arsehole |
If your not after a I could take offence at that .......
Dont fall for the right wing bullshit in our newspapers, they never give the true facts .... ! |
Well... I don't read the paper, I do actually have a mind of my own.
I think it's plain wrong that people are being given false promotions in the last couple of years of their employment to boost their final salary pension... Yes this does actually happen - I know several people who openly admit that they were pushed up the ranks to "invented posts" a few grades up, not on merit, but purely to boost their final salary pension. Now I'm sorry, but that's my and your tax pounds & your pension fund that is being misused like that, so yeah, if you've been an "average" worker for 38 out of 40 years service, you should get an average pension. This is fairer on those who may in the latter years of their career go part time too... |
I can only comment on the NHS pension scheme.
FACT 1 We have excepted changeto the scheme.
FACT 2 The pension age is now 65 ( was 60 )
FACT 3 The final salary pension is now a career ave scheme
FACT 4 We are being asked to pay %50 more each month, for no benefit.
FACT 5 This is on top of a 2 year pay freeze.
Would you not take action against your employer !!!! |
Unfortunately, it's not your fault... successive governments have not taken this in hand, the last lot of pricks in power should have done years ago, but they didn't. Whomever came to power in the last election would have had to face this.
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The NHS pension reform was agreed by the last Labour gov, now the present con/lib lot want to tear it .
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Tango, come over to my office, we can be workshy, overpaid whinging arseholes together
Srsly tho, I work in adult social care and it's the pits, if i'm brutally honest it's a fucking piss take the amount we get paid for the work we do and abuse we take 
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| Rossi Bird wrote: | Tango, come over to my office, we can be workshy, overpaid whinging arseholes together
Srsly tho, I work in adult social care and it's the pits, if i'm brutally honest it's a fucking piss take the amount we get paid for the work we do and abuse we take |
  Ill bring me gold-plated pension ........... 
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I have saved hard for my private pension.
It has been halved twice in stock market crashes and now the divorce will halve it again. Complete waste of time.
A final salary scheme is just a dream in the private sector. No job security and at the mercy of the world economic storm.
I can see all the staff in my firm having to stay in harness until they die (no exaggeration) to pay for the public sector to retire.
Anyone with a final salary or average salary scheme, index linked and guarenteed by government are VERY priviledged.
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| Nuclear Red wrote: | I have saved hard for my private pension.
It has been halved twice in stock market crashes and now the divorce will halve it again. Complete waste of time.
A final salary scheme is just a dream in the private sector. No job security and at the mercy of the world economic storm.
I can see all the staff in my firm having to stay in harness until they die (no exaggeration) to pay for the public sector to retire.
Anyone with a final salary or average salary scheme, index linked and guarenteed by government are VERY priviledged. |
Can see your point John, but two wrongs dont make a right. Maybe private pensions should be lifted to a decent standard.
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I have been trying to really understand the debt the country finds itself in.
It seems we have have two.
1. Long Term.......Like a mortgage, that can be afforded because it is spread out and uses inflation to diminish its effect
2. Structural........Like earning £20K a year but spending £21K per year. It can go on for a while but in the end no one will lend you anymore and you go bankrupt.
At the moment we can afford our mortgage but unless we spend less or earn more by paying more taxes we go bankrupt.
Hard choice time. I dont want to pay more tax, tax just stifles the economy, we have to cut cost, both now and in the future.
No easy answer but working for longer with smaller pensions is inevitably part of the solution.
One scary statistic is that the annual debt interest on our "mortgage" debt is bigger than our Defence Budget......and growing, month on month.
The "cash" overspend stands at billions per month and has to be dealt with now.
Despite the cuts the public sector spending will rise for the next three years before levelling and then shrinking more through lack of growth and inflation than cuts.
We just have to live within our means.
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| Nuclear Red wrote: | I have been trying to really understand the debt the country finds itself in.
It seems we have have two.
1. Long Term.......Like a mortgage, that can be afforded because it is spread out and uses inflation to diminish its effect
2. Structural........Like earning £20K a year but spending £21K per year. It can go on for a while but in the end no one will lend you anymore and you go bankrupt.
At the moment we can afford our mortgage but unless we spend less or earn more by paying more taxes we go bankrupt.
Hard choice time. I dont want to pay more tax, tax just stifles the economy, we have to cut cost, both now and in the future.
No easy answer but working for longer with smaller pensions is inevitably part of the solution.
One scary statistic is that the annual debt interest on our "mortgage" debt is bigger than our Defence Budget......and growing, month on month.
The "cash" overspend stands at billions per month and has to be dealt with now.
Despite the cuts the public sector spending will rise for the next three years before levelling and then shrinking more through lack of growth and inflation than cuts.
We just have to live within our means. |
There you said it ....... people have no money to spend, shops go bust GDP plumets and were back in reccesion . Add the perfect storm of rising inflation ie stagnation as we now have .
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| Tango wrote: | | Nuclear Red wrote: | I have been trying to really understand the debt the country finds itself in.
It seems we have have two.
1. Long Term.......Like a mortgage, that can be afforded because it is spread out and uses inflation to diminish its effect
2. Structural........Like earning £20K a year but spending £21K per year. It can go on for a while but in the end no one will lend you anymore and you go bankrupt.
At the moment we can afford our mortgage but unless we spend less or earn more by paying more taxes we go bankrupt.
Hard choice time. I dont want to pay more tax, tax just stifles the economy, we have to cut cost, both now and in the future.
No easy answer but working for longer with smaller pensions is inevitably part of the solution.
One scary statistic is that the annual debt interest on our "mortgage" debt is bigger than our Defence Budget......and growing, month on month.
The "cash" overspend stands at billions per month and has to be dealt with now.
Despite the cuts the public sector spending will rise for the next three years before levelling and then shrinking more through lack of growth and inflation than cuts.
We just have to live within our means. |
There you said it ....... people have no money to spend, shops go bust GDP plumets and were back in reccesion . Add the perfect storm of rising inflation ie stagnation as we now have . |
just to be technical zero growth and high inflation is stagflation
on the plus side 
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on the plus side |
+1 to that!
(Apart from people who work weekends, but they're just minimum-wage-scum anyway)
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Oi you lot!!
As one of the public sector lazy type people I am working, yes on a weekend.
BTW it's overtime paid at double my usual rate
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| bumble wrote: | | being invisable to 95% of drivers |
Make yourself visible by better road positioning, changing road position on the approach to a crossroads where you have priority is a good one as an example....
Imagine approaching and there's a car at the turning on the left ahead of you. You're sat in the middle of your lane, several things... (these aree by no means gospel or 100%, it's just what I do...)
* roll off, knock it down into a "responsive" gear - this gives you good engine braking, or accellaration if you need it
* observe the brake lights on the rear of the car - you can often see them from the side too. "UNLESS" they are someone driving an auto 2 footed then they are going nowhere all the time that light is on and their foot is on the brake
* on the approach, adjust your postion in the road by moving towards the centre of the road- this makes you look wider and therefore closer
* be mindful of the position of the sun - you look in your mirror and all you see is sun don't expect anyone else to see you approaching!
In short, get yourself on a bikesafe... www.bikesafe.co.uk - surrey, Sussex and the Met do them. Well worth it IMO
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you got more than one?
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| biggus wrote: | | Tiny wrote: | | Ex wifes. |
you got more than one? |
Thank god no!
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ex husbands are just as bad, mine is being a complete tosser as usual! :/
sad whens theres kids involved! |
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